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Dear all, Peng An,
Job was in his deep struggle, both against his three good willed, yet not convincing friends, as well as his personal understanding of the nature of God. This struggle was very painful and draining... Yet as long as Job did't give up the struggle, then his faith in Yahweh was still alive and well, though painful....
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:45 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
2008年8月10日 星期日
[草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 在 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 080806 上的新意見。
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Dear Kathleen, Peng An,
All of our club members open both of our hands to welcome you and to embrace you to join our discussion and sharing daily devotion club.
Dear all, Peng An,
Jephthah seemed to be a tragedy hero in the Bible. He was illegal child of his father with a prostitude. He was expelled by his half brothers to be a homeless fugutives. Then at the crisis of the Israelite, he responded to the summon to take risk in fighting against their enemies. He seemed not having been taught about how to swear to the Lord. Thus he made a very rash and harsh vow to Yahweh before going to the war. Then the greatest tragedy of his life befell upon him. After that tragedy, he even had to face the challenge of the tribe of Ephraimites with violent fighting.
The Bible was also silent on the spiritual lessons for us to learn from this incidence. Was this just descriptional historical story, or what was the spiritual lessons for us to learn? When Abraham responded to Yahweh's challenge to offer up his only son Isaac, the angel from the Lord intervened at the last minute to spare Isaac from being burned up as human sacrifice. But for Jephthah, the Bible was silent. There were all kinds of speculations upon the actual fate of his daughter. Some scholars would speculate that Jephthah's daughter just keep her virginity all her life without being married. Some would say that she was actually burned up as a holocost burnt offering after spending two months to cry for her untimely and premature death...
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:40 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
Dear Kathleen, Peng An,
All of our club members open both of our hands to welcome you and to embrace you to join our discussion and sharing daily devotion club.
Dear all, Peng An,
Jephthah seemed to be a tragedy hero in the Bible. He was illegal child of his father with a prostitude. He was expelled by his half brothers to be a homeless fugutives. Then at the crisis of the Israelite, he responded to the summon to take risk in fighting against their enemies. He seemed not having been taught about how to swear to the Lord. Thus he made a very rash and harsh vow to Yahweh before going to the war. Then the greatest tragedy of his life befell upon him. After that tragedy, he even had to face the challenge of the tribe of Ephraimites with violent fighting.
The Bible was also silent on the spiritual lessons for us to learn from this incidence. Was this just descriptional historical story, or what was the spiritual lessons for us to learn? When Abraham responded to Yahweh's challenge to offer up his only son Isaac, the angel from the Lord intervened at the last minute to spare Isaac from being burned up as human sacrifice. But for Jephthah, the Bible was silent. There were all kinds of speculations upon the actual fate of his daughter. Some scholars would speculate that Jephthah's daughter just keep her virginity all her life without being married. Some would say that she was actually burned up as a holocost burnt offering after spending two months to cry for her untimely and premature death...
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:40 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
[草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 在 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 080805 上的新意見。
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Dear all, Peng An,
This was a very interesting short parable pair. For me, Jesus used two different but related parables to express the incompatibility between the old tranditional system and the new innovation invention. The old system losted its flexibility and adaptability, while the new invention was full of vigor and energy. In the first parable, the contracting power of the new cloth would pull and tear the old clothes and aggravate the hole of the old system, but the new cloth would be still intact. In the second parable, the fermenting power of the new wine would burst open the old wineskin. But this time both the old wineskin and the new wine would suffer damage and loss at the bursting...
What Jesus advised was to store the new wine into the new wine skin, so as to preserve both. It seemed to be more revolutinary than renewal to me.
Personally, I got some other personal thoughts on these two parables. If you could dip the new cloth into the water to shrink it before mending it onto the hole of the old clothes, then it might help mending the old clothes without causing more damage. If you dip the old wineskin into water to make it more pliable and soft, then when you pour the new wine into that dipped old wineskin, the old wineskin might be able to hold up the new wine without bursting apart. Just some personal thoughts to share with you.....
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:15 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
Dear all, Peng An,
This was a very interesting short parable pair. For me, Jesus used two different but related parables to express the incompatibility between the old tranditional system and the new innovation invention. The old system losted its flexibility and adaptability, while the new invention was full of vigor and energy. In the first parable, the contracting power of the new cloth would pull and tear the old clothes and aggravate the hole of the old system, but the new cloth would be still intact. In the second parable, the fermenting power of the new wine would burst open the old wineskin. But this time both the old wineskin and the new wine would suffer damage and loss at the bursting...
What Jesus advised was to store the new wine into the new wine skin, so as to preserve both. It seemed to be more revolutinary than renewal to me.
Personally, I got some other personal thoughts on these two parables. If you could dip the new cloth into the water to shrink it before mending it onto the hole of the old clothes, then it might help mending the old clothes without causing more damage. If you dip the old wineskin into water to make it more pliable and soft, then when you pour the new wine into that dipped old wineskin, the old wineskin might be able to hold up the new wine without bursting apart. Just some personal thoughts to share with you.....
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:15 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
[草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 在 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 080804 上的新意見。
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Dear all, Peng An,
Very interesting to read all of your sharings. It was very clear that each one of us would come up with different readings, understandings, and explanations on the same paragraph of the Bible.
Personally, I could sense that Jacob got the same calculating and manipulating capabilities from his mother, who might got the same capabilities from her father, while her brother Laban, and uncle of Jacob also got it. But it seemed that Jacob got an upper hand over his uncle.
I was not sure whether this was from DNA inheritance or from the family rearing up, the so called nature vs. nurture debate. I was also not sure whether the scripture just kept this historical incidence for descriptive purpose, or there were some prescriptive spiritual lessons we could learn from this incidence...
Good sharing and interesting discussion....
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:03 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
Dear all, Peng An,
Very interesting to read all of your sharings. It was very clear that each one of us would come up with different readings, understandings, and explanations on the same paragraph of the Bible.
Personally, I could sense that Jacob got the same calculating and manipulating capabilities from his mother, who might got the same capabilities from her father, while her brother Laban, and uncle of Jacob also got it. But it seemed that Jacob got an upper hand over his uncle.
I was not sure whether this was from DNA inheritance or from the family rearing up, the so called nature vs. nurture debate. I was also not sure whether the scripture just kept this historical incidence for descriptive purpose, or there were some prescriptive spiritual lessons we could learn from this incidence...
Good sharing and interesting discussion....
由 草戊尚土 於 2008年8月10日 下午 11:03 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
[草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 在 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 080808 上的新意見。
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草戊尚土 牧師，平安：
看到 Kathleen 同學的心得後，不免讓我自己覺得有點慚愧，自己明白了這樣的信息，那是要把我從世俗罪惡中拯救出來的好消息，但是現實和理想總有爭戰，我每天還是抱著許多憂慮，公司能不能撐過今年的虧損？明天會不會又跌停板？組織重整後會不會調降職務？公司要求主管找出考績最差的員工請他走路，我能當著他的面告訴他嗎？
最近常思考著主為我開的路是哪一條路？我的生活，我的工作，我的家庭是不是往這條路上走？祂說︰『疲乏的，祂賜能力；軟弱的，祂賜力量。』但願主能不斷給我憐憫，給我同在的智慧，給我路上的光，給我腳前的燈，當我接受您作為我一生的主，您也必用膀臂聚集羔羊抱在懷中，慢慢地引導我。
卯同學 敬上
由 卯同學 於 2008年8月10日 下午 8:52 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
草戊尚土 牧師，平安：
看到 Kathleen 同學的心得後，不免讓我自己覺得有點慚愧，自己明白了這樣的信息，那是要把我從世俗罪惡中拯救出來的好消息，但是現實和理想總有爭戰，我每天還是抱著許多憂慮，公司能不能撐過今年的虧損？明天會不會又跌停板？組織重整後會不會調降職務？公司要求主管找出考績最差的員工請他走路，我能當著他的面告訴他嗎？
最近常思考著主為我開的路是哪一條路？我的生活，我的工作，我的家庭是不是往這條路上走？祂說︰『疲乏的，祂賜能力；軟弱的，祂賜力量。』但願主能不斷給我憐憫，給我同在的智慧，給我路上的光，給我腳前的燈，當我接受您作為我一生的主，您也必用膀臂聚集羔羊抱在懷中，慢慢地引導我。
卯同學 敬上
由 卯同學 於 2008年8月10日 下午 8:52 張貼在 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部
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