2009年1月12日 星期一

[和平青年團契] kingdom of heaven有新意見。

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主角是一個不愛權~又有正義感的好青年
期待自己學到一點囉^^



由 天立 於 2009年1月12日 下午 11:32 張貼在 和平青年團契

[和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 090112有新意見。

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草戊尚土 牧師和各位俱樂部的兄姐,平安:

首先,我想先感謝 草戊尚土 牧師 在百忙之中仍花那麼多時間來回應我們的看法,讓我從中收穫良多,真是很感謝,也但願天父阿爸保守您的平安。

『視而不見』,自以為是的那雙眼已經完全取代了鼻子上的那雙眼,所以看到再多的神蹟也無法改變法老的心意。

其實,我有時也會這樣,看到該做的事不想去做,看到不對的事不敢去糾正,看到別人受苦不會去關心,看到自己做錯卻也不想承認。

『視而不見』,讓我自己可以看不見每件事,但是 神卻又要讓我逐一看見。

親愛的主,感謝您給了我看見的恩典,但是我卻常常選擇看不見,但願您憐憫我,讓我能走到西羅亞的池子,用您的話語洗淨我的雙眼,讓您改變我的生命,讓我能重新看見這個世界。

卯同學 敬上



由 卯同學 於 2009年1月12日 下午 11:27 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

[和平青年團契] kingdom of heaven有新意見。

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看了一下movie版有關這部電影...
原來它還有導演版喔!!!
而且評價很高呢!!!



由 宜璋 於 2009年1月12日 下午 11:00 張貼在 和平青年團契

[和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 090109有新意見。

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Dear All, Peng An,
In the shivering cold weather reding your stories of burning buddha or cross to have some warmth was quite intriguing to me...

Dear JBC, Peng An,
What a concise compare and contrast between God and Idol...

Dear Mou, Peng An,
Yeah, God created Man, and Man created Idol....but treated his humanly created Idol as God....
But it was very difficult for us to worship the true God. As all we could do was to worship what we believed as God, which was inevitably our psychological perception anc concept of God... which, by our definition, was idol....

Dear LLH, Peng An,
Thank you very much for your sharing. May the Lord bless you as you start to step into this journey of faith.
This was a narrow path, and the road was not even or easy, but it would be worthy of our sweat and effort... and very happy to have some spiritual friends who could share with us this journey...

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Idolization was a human shared tendency... whether Christian or others....
The worst idol was not cross or buddha sculpture... but our selves, our families, our fans.....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 8:29 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
Psalm 23 was short, but had great impact on the spiritual lives of many people of all generations.
The power of a poem was so great. The images used in this psalm changed so fast... from his relationship with God to enjoy a carefree and want free life...to the seren scenery of the green pasture and the calm creekside...from walking on the path of righteousness to enjoy the spiritual refreshness... then suddenly the whole picture was changed to that of horror and threat of death.... the valley of the shadow of death... then a deeper experience of the presence of God....Such presence of God would be more powerful than the same presence of God when the environment was so serene and peaceful.... then the most extreme contrast of serving banquet in the face of the enemies... what an unimaginable contrast... the aointing of the head and the filling to the brim of the cups of blessing... all happened in the face of the enemy... finished up by eternal destiny of worship and harmony with our God... forever...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 8:20 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear LLH, Peng An,
We would extend both of our hands widely to welcome you to join our spiritual journeying and journaling....
For a beginning, you were doing fantastic.... Good analysis...

Dear JBC, Peng An,
Thank you very much for your hermeneutic to apply such principle to current congregant pastor relationship. But the cutting of the skirt of the robe would remind Saul of his cruelty and error. Please cut my skirt to remind me of my error.... Thanks.

Dear Mou, Peng An,
It was interesting that you would interpret the cutting of the skirt as from the flesh of David. Others would interpret it as a wisdom or prudence....

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Yeah, not all chances of revenge coming from God would mean that we could do it.... We still needed to pray and discern what would truely bring honor and glory to our God...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 8:11 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear all, Peng An,
Yeah, different motivations would bring out different destinations.
Google was our good friend who could bring us many information from around the world. I would agree that humility and repentance were two very important virtues...
God's predestination and human freedom of choice seemed to interact with each other in this passage....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 8:01 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
We had two sets of eyes, one pair of external eyes which help us to see the outside world created by God. Another set of eye was internal eye which help us to interpret the sights we saw in the outside world. Usually the inside eye would determine what our outside eyes would and could see.
We had a saying, Seeing without perceiving. Shih Er Pu Chian. (視而不見). Our presumption and preoccupation would definitely impact on our vision.



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:58 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear Mou and JBC, Peng An,
We missed YuZe this time. Sorry that I missed to post this meditation on the web. Fortunately my beloved wife Jean reminded me of such oversight. I apologized for my mistake to you all.
I wonder how long did David take to finish this poem. Could David finish this poem in one day? or one week? or one year? or... How long would we take from complaining to praise?.....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:53 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear all, Peng An,
Yeah, the responsibility laid upon the leadership was huge and heavy. Please pray for me and our pastors and elders, so that we could perform our spiriutual leadership at HoPing church with loyalty to our Lord and love toward our congregants...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:49 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear all, Peng An,
Yeah, Ahimelech was truely a brave servant of God. The cost for serving our Lord with loyalty was huge, 85 lives were sacrificed upon this altar of loyal service...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:46 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
Yeah, ministering to thing and to person would be two different emphases and approaches.
Usually we would tend to presume that we could only chose between the two options. But I would more tend to think that their relationship was not a simple either / or dichotomy, but rather as a two by two table, thus creating four possible combinations.....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:42 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear JBC, Peng An,
A very good analysis of possible reasons for Moses to insist that he didn't have good expressivity. Would you try to prioritize them?

Dear Mou, Peng An,
It was interesting that you mentioned Moses convinced God to change His original plan by replacing Moses with Aaron.
This interpretation would precipitate some theological conundrum of whether humanity could change God....

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Your observation was very interesting. That Moses would obey God's order, yet with murmuring in his mouth....
Would God accept such obedience?....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:39 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear all, Peng An,
Prophet Jeremiah was a prophet of tears. What he saw and experienced was the apostasy and disaster of the whole country. Yahweh chose him to play the role of a prophet in such dark and despair period in Israel history.
Thanks to Mou for sharing the story of penguins... The story would create a sense of hope in the dark world of Jeremiah...
Dear JBC, yeah, freedom in what sense? Many evils were committed in the name of freedom...
Dear YuZe, the relationship between idolatry and cruelty might be a very interesting topic for further investigation and study...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:16 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear all, Peng An,
Thanks for your comments and sharing. God revealed Himself to humanity through two pathways. The first pathway was through His creation of nature with natural law. The second pathway was His creation of culture through human creativity with moral law.
From these two laws, natural and cultural-moral, we could learn that our God was a God of order (cosmos), not God of disorder (chaos).



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:09 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
The love between Jonathan and David was so touching, that some scholars would speculate that whether their friendship had homosexual tendency....
Anyway, this kind of friendship was very inspiring to me. Jesus Christ told his disciples that he would treat them as friend, and a good friend would lay down his life for his friend...
The melody of that hymn, what a friend we have in Jesus seemed to ring in my ears.....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:05 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear JBC, Peng An,
It was interesting that you would mention about the discord among the denominations...
Originally, I was also against denominations, I would like to have one Chrisianity in Unity....
Then slowly, I discovered that denomination phenomena might be one of God's mercy to humanity diversity.... Just a thought to share with you...

Dear Mou, Peng An,
I admired your ability to learn much from google... I liked you to translate your bible reading into your personal prayer...
In your prayer, you asked God to help you put down your questions so that you could follow Him.... If it was me, my prayer would be to ask God to help me to continue following Him, even carrying my unanswered questions with me along the whole faith journey.....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 7:01 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear Jessica, Peng An,
Welcome to join our spiritual joureying and journaling...
Your comment was good. Usually we could not clearly and decisively understand the meaning and significance of what happened in our lives. We could only guess... like what Paul said, looking through a dark window...all seemed to be fuzzy and uncertain...
This was the limitation of our rationality...

Dear Mou, Peng An,
Yeah, suffering was a mystry to us human beings. And I would agree with you that during our mysterious sufferings, we could choose to depart from our God or we could choose to cling more closely to our God...

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
I would defintely and strongly encourage you to consider rewrite the whole bible in your imagination and creativity. The result might be a book full of interest and insight....
People would choose to hear what they decided to hear beforehand, and refuse to listen to what they would not like to hear...

Dear JBC, Peng An,
Your mothering role let you learn spiritual lessons in a way that we boys could not imagine...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 6:53 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
Each time when I wrote my emails or letters, I would like to start with a greeting, Peng An.
Peng An might refer to inner serenity, or outer harmony. The former might be related to what psychoanalytical school would say about our inner struggles among our Ego, Id and Superego. The latter would be more broad and complicated in our relationship with ourselves, our neighbors, our enemies, our environment, and our God...
Shalom was more than the lack of war or conflict. It had a very abundant and extravagant meaning of harmony, happiness, growth, enjoyment....
Peng An to all three of you... my beloved company on our shared spiritual journey....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 6:39 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear YuZe and Mou, Peng An,
Yeah, JBC must be either very busy or had other detractions, so we would miss her comments today.
This seemed to express one kind of justice, so called retributive justice....
But reading Matthew 5:38-48, it seemed to me that Jesus Christ came to this world to teach us a new kind of justice, so called restorative justice, which would use kindness and mercy to win over an enemy, to restore a broken relationship....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 6:33 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
As I could see from your responses that all of us were trying to symbolize or spiritualize or principlize the meaning and significance of the war between David and Giant Goliath.
I thought few people today would think that would be a teaching for us to kill our enemy in the war field. Usually we would prefer to pray that our Lord would grant the political leaders of both sides to had enough political wisdom to solve the dispute between the two sides, whether it was between Israel and Gaza Palestinians, Taiwan and China, China and Tibet,....

Dear Mou, Peng An,
I would agree with you that David had gone through his period of training and equipping before he could actually have the courage to face the formidable challeng of the Giant Goliath.

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Interesting to read the list of the possible Goliaths in your current life situation.

Dear JBC, Peng An,
Reading your comment, it prompted me to think about whether it would be more appropriate to sayt that if we choose to stand on the side of God, then God would help us solve our problem.... Just a thought to share with you...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 下午 6:26 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
This was one of those tough verses in the Bible for us to decipher and to learn from.
I liked that all three of you tried hard to understand the underlying meaning of this paragraph.

Dear JBC, Peng An,
Good that you could use your personal life experience to understand the possible meaning of this paragraph. This was a very good example of hermeneutic.

Dear Mou, Peng An,
Good that you would be willing to confess that you could not understand the possible meaning of this paragraph, and you would put it into the category of mystery..

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Your comment was very interesting. You tried to refer to previous dialogue between Jesus and his mother. And you also tried to refer to your possible reaction if your mom would come to visit you at your work.



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 10:00 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear All, Peng An,
Very interesting discussion about the possible significance of the first encounter between Yahweh and Moses.

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Yeah, chosen by God to be His coworker was a very honorable experience. Yet, if we read the following story, we would find out this coworker should also be ready to face the challenge, the sacrifice laying ahead.

Dear Mou, Peng An,
Interesting that you noticed the staff in Moses' hand. This ordinary staff would be transformed by Yahweh into a very powerful tool to help Moses accomplishing his ministry...

Dear JBC, Peng An,
Happy to learn that you remembered the relationship between Aaron and Moses. Aaron was the elder brother and Moses was the younger one. Sibling relationship would be a very interesting topic for us to study here...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:53 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear Anonymous, Peng An,
Welcome Anonymous to join our sharing and discussion. You are more than welcome to join us.

Dear JBC,Peng An,
You mentioned about the justice of God.

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
You mentioned about the mercy of God beyond the justice.

Dear Mou, Peng An,
You mentioned about the free will of humanity and you turned Bible study into a self reflective meditation prayer.

Another very beautiful illustration of the circle of hermeneutic. Putting all of us together, we would form a wonderful circle of hermeneutic, in which we could learn from one another. We could learn to avoid the fallacy of self absolutization in our interpretation of the Bible...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:45 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear Mou, Peng An,
You did a very good job of pointing out that the difference between David and his oppressor was not much. And you pointed out the key and major difference was whether David was close to God and obeying God's commandment...

Dear JBC, Peng An,
I liked your short comment. The so called prosperity gospel preachers would be more like the evil one here....

Dear YuZe, Peng An,
Yeah, our speech was one of the major war field between God and Satan. Might all of us could glorify our Lord through our mouth and tongue...



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:38 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

[和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 081210有新意見。

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Dear All, Peng An,
All three of you tried to deciphor the possible underlying psychological process of David's eldest brother's dialogue with David.
Yuze tried to explain Eliab's mentality in a more balanced way.
That was a very good try. Usually we would more tended to divinize the hero (David) of the story, and at the same time to demonize the opposite figure.
We should learn to avoid such stereotyping tendency....



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:31 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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Dear YuZe, Peng An,
I also enjoyed your very good metaphor. Metaphor was a very good way to express our explanation of our understanding of the meaning of the paragraph.

Dear Mou, Peng An,
I admired your ability to use google to search the web to glean the vast information available in the cyberspace. This was another grace God granted upon us through the creativity and imagination of humnanity.



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:21 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

[和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部] 三年讀經默想與題目 (草戊尚土) 081208有新意見。

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Dear all, Peng An,
I was very happy that all three of you had mentioned about the influence and impact of Moses' special growing up experience. But you had different and various interpretations of the possible meanings and significance of such growning up experience. This was a very good example of the circle of hermeneutics.



由 草戊尚土 於 2009年1月12日 上午 9:16 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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"法老的臣僕中,懼怕耶和華這話的,便叫他的奴僕和牲畜跑進家來。但那不把耶和華這話放在心上的,就將他的奴僕和牲畜留在田裡。"9:20-21

認真看待神的話的人,損失較沒那麼慘重,求神讓我把祂的話語"放在心上".

"法老見雨和雹與雷止住,就越發犯罪;他和他的臣僕都硬著心。法老的心剛硬,不容以色列人去,正如耶和華藉著摩西所說的。"9:34-35

法老的反應的確有點奇怪,人通常會記取教訓,他卻"越發犯罪".或許法老真的認為自己也是神,這次鬥輸了,下次可不一定,結局當然我們已經知道了.



由 JBC 於 2009年1月12日 上午 8:35 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部

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死鴨子,嘴硬!驕傲!不知憐恤!



由 yuze 於 2009年1月12日 上午 6:19 張貼在 和平教會 草戊尚土靈修俱樂部